OT / Vacation Pay question
03-12-2006, 09:55 PM
#11
some companys will be generous in that area, mine for examle will pay out ot even if theres a holiday in there.
reason being if everyone knows they wont then they just wont do the ot that week! simple as that...
reason being if everyone knows they wont then they just wont do the ot that week! simple as that...
03-13-2006, 12:08 AM
#12
Originally Posted by 92zed34
some companys will be generous in that area, mine for examle will pay out ot even if theres a holiday in there.
reason being if everyone knows they wont then they just wont do the ot that week! simple as that...
reason being if everyone knows they wont then they just wont do the ot that week! simple as that...
The point my coworker brought up was why should he sacrafice 1 of 2 days off for regular time.
Fawk every other point. We are busy, they want us to work, we want time off. Solution? OT
03-13-2006, 12:55 PM
#13
The labour relations act will cover hours of work, OT and days off. I suggest that you familiarize yourself with it. A employer and employee are both bound by the act and must conduct themselves accordingly. If I ask a employee to work and that employee refuses, I can take disciplinary action against that employee. Not that I would, but I can. If this time was in excess of 8 hours a day or 40 hours a week, OT would be paid.
I do not buy the give up one of my days off routine at all. If you are given a normal working day (the holiday monday) off, there is still 5 days of work ahead of you. So your options given to by the employer was to do the work, part of which would be your normal missed day. So you have a Sat, Sun, Mon off on one week, the next weekend you have a Sun only before it is back to normal. I see no issues with this at all. It is the same amount of work on the same number of days and you have the same number of days off. The flip side ot this is that the employer could have had you work the monday and given you the normal days off. Then of course you might have come back and said, now I have to work on a holiday, great, no one else does? Or the employer could have cut your hours short for the week and given you a normal Sat and Sun off following your holiday Mon off. Then we might have heard now my paycheque is short by 8 hours, fabdabulous.
As a employer, my employees whine, complain and moan all the time. I control the ship, they row it. I work within the bounds of the labour relations act and always have. I once had to work for a faceless big box company that did not though. It was at that employer that I familiarized myself with the labour relations act and how it pertains to BC employees. Will it differ from province to province, sure it can.
I see your comments as a vent and a legitmate inquiry, not a cheez and whine show, I would hope that you see my comments as a valid response to a question and not a slam it down your throat type of comment.
I do not buy the give up one of my days off routine at all. If you are given a normal working day (the holiday monday) off, there is still 5 days of work ahead of you. So your options given to by the employer was to do the work, part of which would be your normal missed day. So you have a Sat, Sun, Mon off on one week, the next weekend you have a Sun only before it is back to normal. I see no issues with this at all. It is the same amount of work on the same number of days and you have the same number of days off. The flip side ot this is that the employer could have had you work the monday and given you the normal days off. Then of course you might have come back and said, now I have to work on a holiday, great, no one else does? Or the employer could have cut your hours short for the week and given you a normal Sat and Sun off following your holiday Mon off. Then we might have heard now my paycheque is short by 8 hours, fabdabulous.
As a employer, my employees whine, complain and moan all the time. I control the ship, they row it. I work within the bounds of the labour relations act and always have. I once had to work for a faceless big box company that did not though. It was at that employer that I familiarized myself with the labour relations act and how it pertains to BC employees. Will it differ from province to province, sure it can.
I see your comments as a vent and a legitmate inquiry, not a cheez and whine show, I would hope that you see my comments as a valid response to a question and not a slam it down your throat type of comment.
03-13-2006, 10:17 PM
#14
Originally Posted by MR2NR
The labour relations act will cover hours of work, OT and days off. I suggest that you familiarize yourself with it. A employer and employee are both bound by the act and must conduct themselves accordingly. If I ask a employee to work and that employee refuses, I can take disciplinary action against that employee. Not that I would, but I can. If this time was in excess of 8 hours a day or 40 hours a week, OT would be paid.
I do not buy the give up one of my days off routine at all. If you are given a normal working day (the holiday monday) off, there is still 5 days of work ahead of you. So your options given to by the employer was to do the work, part of which would be your normal missed day. So you have a Sat, Sun, Mon off on one week, the next weekend you have a Sun only before it is back to normal. I see no issues with this at all. It is the same amount of work on the same number of days and you have the same number of days off. The flip side ot this is that the employer could have had you work the monday and given you the normal days off. Then of course you might have come back and said, now I have to work on a holiday, great, no one else does? Or the employer could have cut your hours short for the week and given you a normal Sat and Sun off following your holiday Mon off. Then we might have heard now my paycheque is short by 8 hours, fabdabulous.
As a employer, my employees whine, complain and moan all the time. I control the ship, they row it. I work within the bounds of the labour relations act and always have. I once had to work for a faceless big box company that did not though. It was at that employer that I familiarized myself with the labour relations act and how it pertains to BC employees. Will it differ from province to province, sure it can.
I see your comments as a vent and a legitmate inquiry, not a cheez and whine show, I would hope that you see my comments as a valid response to a question and not a slam it down your throat type of comment.
I do not buy the give up one of my days off routine at all. If you are given a normal working day (the holiday monday) off, there is still 5 days of work ahead of you. So your options given to by the employer was to do the work, part of which would be your normal missed day. So you have a Sat, Sun, Mon off on one week, the next weekend you have a Sun only before it is back to normal. I see no issues with this at all. It is the same amount of work on the same number of days and you have the same number of days off. The flip side ot this is that the employer could have had you work the monday and given you the normal days off. Then of course you might have come back and said, now I have to work on a holiday, great, no one else does? Or the employer could have cut your hours short for the week and given you a normal Sat and Sun off following your holiday Mon off. Then we might have heard now my paycheque is short by 8 hours, fabdabulous.
As a employer, my employees whine, complain and moan all the time. I control the ship, they row it. I work within the bounds of the labour relations act and always have. I once had to work for a faceless big box company that did not though. It was at that employer that I familiarized myself with the labour relations act and how it pertains to BC employees. Will it differ from province to province, sure it can.
I see your comments as a vent and a legitmate inquiry, not a cheez and whine show, I would hope that you see my comments as a valid response to a question and not a slam it down your throat type of comment.
No where does it say that you have to work the saturday or normal day off, when a holiday falls on a weekday if asked to. I dunno were you got that from.
BTW our normal schedule is M-F 7:30-4
No we din't have Sat Sun Mon off. We work the previous saturday. We only had Sun Mon off.
I'd love to work the Mon instead of the Sat following. That would have been 1.5 X pay instead of 1 as it was on the Sat.
How is he going to cut my hours short? Do you know what you are talking about? Had I not worked Sat I would have still had 40hrs reg pay.
Oh and if you still don't buy all that. I got a trump card in my hand.
I live in Alberta, I'm a tradesman. Welder to be more specific.
That means I have the upper hand in this.
Like I said earlier. If he wants me to work he had better pay up. We're not union, Were not getting payed the huge dollars like the some of the them are.
My point? I can get another job in about 42 seconds. Some of my Coworkers? Maybe not LOL
Not trying to be a dink but thats the way it is in Alberta.
03-13-2006, 11:22 PM
#15
Originally Posted by Xiph0id
Actually I have read the Alberta Labour Standards Guidelines.
No where does it say that you have to work the saturday or normal day off, when a holiday falls on a weekday if asked to. I dunno were you got that from.
BTW our normal schedule is M-F 7:30-4
No we din't have Sat Sun Mon off. We work the previous saturday. We only had Sun Mon off.
I'd love to work the Mon instead of the Sat following. That would have been 1.5 X pay instead of 1 as it was on the Sat.
How is he going to cut my hours short? Do you know what you are talking about? Had I not worked Sat I would have still had 40hrs reg pay.
Oh and if you still don't buy all that. I got a trump card in my hand.
I live in Alberta, I'm a tradesman. Welder to be more specific.
That means I have the upper hand in this.
Like I said earlier. If he wants me to work he had better pay up. We're not union, Were not getting payed the huge dollars like the some of the them are.
My point? I can get another job in about 42 seconds. Some of my Coworkers? Maybe not LOL
Not trying to be a dink but thats the way it is in Alberta.
No where does it say that you have to work the saturday or normal day off, when a holiday falls on a weekday if asked to. I dunno were you got that from.
BTW our normal schedule is M-F 7:30-4
No we din't have Sat Sun Mon off. We work the previous saturday. We only had Sun Mon off.
I'd love to work the Mon instead of the Sat following. That would have been 1.5 X pay instead of 1 as it was on the Sat.
How is he going to cut my hours short? Do you know what you are talking about? Had I not worked Sat I would have still had 40hrs reg pay.
Oh and if you still don't buy all that. I got a trump card in my hand.
I live in Alberta, I'm a tradesman. Welder to be more specific.
That means I have the upper hand in this.
Like I said earlier. If he wants me to work he had better pay up. We're not union, Were not getting payed the huge dollars like the some of the them are.
My point? I can get another job in about 42 seconds. Some of my Coworkers? Maybe not LOL
Not trying to be a dink but thats the way it is in Alberta.
03-14-2006, 12:44 PM
#16
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hmm - so Martin - they essentially 'forced' you to work the Saturday so that they did not 'lose a work day'? Hm, then that is the *****.... Sure you still got holiday pay for a Monday that you didn't work, but you had an abbreviated weekend as well, for only 8hrs of standard pay. Crappy..
I've been salary for about 15 years so these things are mostly foreign to me
With my part time job at FS though I am always surprised that I get paid holiday pay considering I work only one day a week and it is never the stat day. 
I've been salary for about 15 years so these things are mostly foreign to me
With my part time job at FS though I am always surprised that I get paid holiday pay considering I work only one day a week and it is never the stat day.
03-14-2006, 06:34 PM
#17
Originally Posted by Dukk
hmm - so Martin - they essentially 'forced' you to work the Saturday so that they did not 'lose a work day'? Hm, then that is the *****.... Sure you still got holiday pay for a Monday that you didn't work, but you had an abbreviated weekend as well, for only 8hrs of standard pay. Crappy..
I've been salary for about 15 years so these things are mostly foreign to me With my part time job at FS though I am always surprised that I get paid holiday pay considering I work only one day a week and it is never the stat day.
I've been salary for about 15 years so these things are mostly foreign to me
With my part time job at FS though I am always surprised that I get paid holiday pay considering I work only one day a week and it is never the stat day. We were not aware that it was going to be paid as regular hours.
Yeah salaries has it's perks. ( You bastard :P )
But if I want to make more or less money I adjust the amount of hours I work.
03-14-2006, 06:38 PM
#18
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There are a few ways an employer can count OT
a) Anything above the regular work week (40 or 44, depends on the job)
b) Any time in excess of the standard work day (most comonly 8hrs). So if you stay late, but miss the next day the time you put in above your regular day is still paid as OT.
c) Bank hours, stupid system unless you take a lot of time off.
It depends how cheap your employer is.
Oh, and da hell with camp life in fort mac
Steve
a) Anything above the regular work week (40 or 44, depends on the job)
b) Any time in excess of the standard work day (most comonly 8hrs). So if you stay late, but miss the next day the time you put in above your regular day is still paid as OT.
c) Bank hours, stupid system unless you take a lot of time off.
It depends how cheap your employer is.
Oh, and da hell with camp life in fort mac
Steve
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