Ontario Street Racing Law rules unconstitutional but tickets are still coming
11-23-2009, 01:25 PM
#11
Don't care really
Not really
No it's not.
Why do you need to drive 300km in the first place?
I'll tell you what Yuli. I'll hop in my car tomorrow around 11am, drive down your street at 100km and hopefully not hit you as you cross the street to get your mail....the law is there to stop people from hurting someone or themselves.
Not really
No it's not.
I'll tell you what Yuli. I'll hop in my car tomorrow around 11am, drive down your street at 100km and hopefully not hit you as you cross the street to get your mail....the law is there to stop people from hurting someone or themselves.
11-23-2009, 01:29 PM
#12
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i got a stunt driving ticket for spinning my tire ( yes.. one wheel peel ) on a wet road for 20 feet it was at a light i got the the light when it was red came to a stop it went green gave it to much gas tire spun car infront turned a few hundred feet down the road ( was infront of me) i slowed down got back on gas just enough for it to kick down to 1st and spun again
the cop had to run a red light were it was green for me ( 51 seconds behing me timmed light...) i was goin to get me some lunch when i see this cop fly into parking lot ( no lights on or nothing) me and buddys were out of the truck so he asked for driver to go see him and what not
ive never liked this cop hes always been a dick to me casue of other things that have happend before
long story short.... theres no possible way he seen me do it so im fighting it the last court date he decided to call in sick so still not sure whats going on with it yet
the cop had to run a red light were it was green for me ( 51 seconds behing me timmed light...) i was goin to get me some lunch when i see this cop fly into parking lot ( no lights on or nothing) me and buddys were out of the truck so he asked for driver to go see him and what not
ive never liked this cop hes always been a dick to me casue of other things that have happend before
long story short.... theres no possible way he seen me do it so im fighting it the last court date he decided to call in sick so still not sure whats going on with it yet
11-23-2009, 01:43 PM
#13
Don't care really
Not really
No it's not.
Why do you need to drive 300km in the first place?
I'll tell you what Yuli. I'll hop in my car tomorrow around 11am, drive down your street at 100km and hopefully not hit you as you cross the street to get your mail....the law is there to stop people from hurting someone or themselves.
Not really
No it's not.
Why do you need to drive 300km in the first place?
I'll tell you what Yuli. I'll hop in my car tomorrow around 11am, drive down your street at 100km and hopefully not hit you as you cross the street to get your mail....the law is there to stop people from hurting someone or themselves.
it is unconsitutional, this law says you must serve jail time before trial. in canada you have the right to fair trial.
it is BS b/c we've always had speeding laws which are already protecting people from other people.
u can drive 400 km/hr i dont really care as anything at 60 and above would be a fatal hit anyways. People never think about that. People say OMG HE DROVE AT 170KM/HR........so? As if getting hit at 100km/hr less (70km/hr) would allow you to walk away (as a pedestrian)?
i dont need to drive 300km/hr, no one really needs to drive that fast. Yet, they build cars that go 200+, why do they do that? If we are all about safety how hard would it be to produce cars with some sort of governors or something which would not allow you to accelerate past 120km/hr?
yet, nothing like that is done. and u know why? because insurance companies dont want it that way. they want you to go fast and get booked, maybe kill some people or yourself in the process.
Not sure if you are aware or not, but all the road/highway regulations, adjustments, etc (higher/lower speed limit, traffic light vs. a stop sign, an all way stop sign vs a 2 way stop sign, designated turning lane vs. a shared lane, green arrow vs. no green arrow, an island in the middle of the road vs. a double solid line and MANY other regulations and adjustments) are all weighted against human injuries and casualties. It is true, look it up. These things are weighted in in terms of "what is a human life worth" vs. "how much will be spent on making/building a road/highway adjustment to prevent others from dying or getting hurt". This is government's ideology.
.......Yet, we do not do that when it comes to vehicle themselves. And it is all because with cars and people driving them it is weighted a bit differently, it's like "what is a human life worth" vs. "how much profit can we make by charging people higher premiums cuz they drive fast and kill themselves and others". This is auto insurance companies' ideology.
this law is as stupid as the one they are trying to pass in order to prevent people from owning hand guns.
Last edited by Father Yuli; 11-23-2009 at 01:57 PM.
11-23-2009, 01:53 PM
#14
it is unconsitutional, this law says you must serve jail time before trial. in canada you have the right to fair trial.
it is BS b/c we've always had speeding laws which are already protecting people from other people.
u can drive 400 km/hr i dont really care as anything at 60 and above would be a fatal hit anyways. People never think about that. People say OMG HE DROVE AT 170KM/HR........so? As if getting hit at 100km/hr less (70km/hr) would allow you to walk away (as a pedestrian)?
this law is as stupid as the one they are trying to pass in order to prevent people from owning hand guns.
it is BS b/c we've always had speeding laws which are already protecting people from other people.
u can drive 400 km/hr i dont really care as anything at 60 and above would be a fatal hit anyways. People never think about that. People say OMG HE DROVE AT 170KM/HR........so? As if getting hit at 100km/hr less (70km/hr) would allow you to walk away (as a pedestrian)?
this law is as stupid as the one they are trying to pass in order to prevent people from owning hand guns.
11-23-2009, 02:00 PM
#15
but this is different from going to jail. before you go to jail in Canada you have the right to a fair trial.
Don't get things mixed up. speeding is bad, driving is a privilege. I agree.
jailing someone without trial and confiscating their property is violation of constitutional rights.
alot of things are privileges, but it is sad when government fueled by a third party (insurance companies) begins to infringe on your constitutional rights and people begin to blindly obey and follow.
Last edited by Father Yuli; 11-23-2009 at 02:03 PM.
11-23-2009, 02:09 PM
#16
11-23-2009, 02:13 PM
#17
Do you not ever speed or run a stop sign? or not signal a lane change? do you think you deserve to go to jail (as in serving time) and have your car taken?
11-23-2009, 02:23 PM
#18
Yes in past I have sped, gone too slow, not signal, run a stop sign. Do I deserve I go to jail? sure, why not. I broke that law....think about it!
Bottom line is more and more people that are in such a hurry and completely disrepect the rules of the road. They drive erratically and looks out for themselves and their agenda.
I don't want to go to jail or pay a huge fine or loose my car...so i try to drive properly.
Bottom line is more and more people that are in such a hurry and completely disrepect the rules of the road. They drive erratically and looks out for themselves and their agenda.
I don't want to go to jail or pay a huge fine or loose my car...so i try to drive properly.
Last edited by avidedtr; 11-23-2009 at 02:29 PM.
11-23-2009, 02:42 PM
#19
Yes in past I have sped, gone too slow, not signal, run a stop sign. Do I deserve I go to jail? sure, why not. I broke that law....think about it!
Bottom line is more and more people that are in such a hurry and completely disrepect the rules of the road. They drive erratically and looks out for themselves and their agenda.
I don't want to go to jail or pay a huge fine or loose my car...so i try to drive properly.
Bottom line is more and more people that are in such a hurry and completely disrepect the rules of the road. They drive erratically and looks out for themselves and their agenda.
I don't want to go to jail or pay a huge fine or loose my car...so i try to drive properly.
Do you know how the law works? In Canada, offences punishable by jail term are those which to some degree HAVE violated a person's right.
Here is an example,
You are driving your car, you run a red light, cop pulls you over - it's a ticket. There is no jail term.
Scenario two. You are driving your car, you run a red light, hit and kill a pedestrian - that's a man slaughter/criminal negligence with possible jail term.
I dont think "endangering" is a violation of a right and thus does not carry a jail term.
It's like if someone breaks into your house, that's a jail term for them since they violated your right to security. But if their dog takes a crap on your lawn..........no jail term for that.
Last edited by Father Yuli; 11-23-2009 at 02:44 PM.
11-23-2009, 03:11 PM
#20
Truly sad. You believe you should have gone to jail for those things. Remember, those things are privileges. You think you should go to jail for violating a privilege? How long of a jail term do you think you deserve for violating privileges for which you already pay out of your own income? Just wondering.
Do you know how the law works? In Canada, offences punishable by jail term are those which to some degree HAVE violated a person's right.
Here is an example,
You are driving your car, you run a red light, cop pulls you over - it's a ticket. There is no jail term.
Scenario two. You are driving your car, you run a red light, hit and kill a pedestrian - that's a man slaughter/criminal negligence with possible jail term.
I dont think "endangering" is a violation of a right and thus does not carry a jail term.
It's like if someone breaks into your house, that's a jail term for them since they violated your right to security. But if their dog takes a crap on your lawn..........no jail term for that.
Do you know how the law works? In Canada, offences punishable by jail term are those which to some degree HAVE violated a person's right.
Here is an example,
You are driving your car, you run a red light, cop pulls you over - it's a ticket. There is no jail term.
Scenario two. You are driving your car, you run a red light, hit and kill a pedestrian - that's a man slaughter/criminal negligence with possible jail term.
I dont think "endangering" is a violation of a right and thus does not carry a jail term.
It's like if someone breaks into your house, that's a jail term for them since they violated your right to security. But if their dog takes a crap on your lawn..........no jail term for that.
Last edited by avidedtr; 11-23-2009 at 03:14 PM.
