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Old 07-25-2004, 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by DWVW:
So every shop in B.C. and Ontario that does emissions testing has a chassis dyno? There is not a single one in Medicine Hat.
The emissions testing done in B.C. is carried out by Aircare, which is the government run emissions testing service. http://www.aircare.ca/ Before you can licence your vehicle it has to pass aircare, with a few exceptions of course (some older vehicles may be exempt, I believe).
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Old 07-25-2004, 10:16 AM
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That study dosen't surprise me at all... I've been hosed before, and didn't like it.... now I try to do all my own work....

I'm telling you guys, a service manual for my vehicle was one of the best investments I could have made....

Funny story:

About 2months ago my buddy Jeff tells me that his 95grand prix won't start -his boss who is 'mechanically inclined' told him it was the fuel pump, which I agreed with based on the symptoms he discribed. He said the dealership wanted $80 just to look at it.

Days later I thought to call him and offer to fix the problem in exchange for a sofa he was going to sell me, but he had already took the car in to the shop. $290+tax later they diognosed and fixed a loose wire from the sensor that turns the pump on. (2nd thing you check after confirming the pump works)

Anyway... 2 weeks after that I see him again and his blinkers arn't working... same dealership wants $80 just to look at it, but suspects it's the blinker switch($75). They quote $280+ tax to fix it.

I say -no fing way dude- locate his flasher under the driverside kick panel and confirm it's bad. A trip to canadian tire and $3.50 later his blinkers worked fine in under 10min.

I told him to go back to the dealership and tear a strip off someone... but I doubt he did...

That chit makes me want to puke [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img]
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Old 07-25-2004, 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by loudsubz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Brandon:
I don't understand why peole don't work on their own vehicles. If you don't understand basic mechanics of a vehicle...you shouldn't be driving anyway...simple as that.
Posts like this disgust me.

I know what your trying to say but not everyone is mechanically inclined and know much about their car, should that mean they dont deserve to drive? NOT AT ALL.

So I guess your theory can apply to everything right?

Do your own plumbing, electrical, electronics... yada yada yada.

So i guess if your TV breaks down and you can't fix it yourself, then you dont deserve to own or watch a TV?

am I getting this straight?

</font>[/QUOTE]A car is a little different than your f***ing TV man. You said you knew what I was getting at so why ask the stupid questions?

I don't think you do understand what I'm trying to say.

If your gonna hop in a vehicle that weighs,usually, over 2000Lbs and drive it around you SHOULD be required to know something about how it's supposed to function properly, so you don't get in a vehicle with a bad ball joint and drive it around till it breaks and possibly get into an accident and kill someone.

In Ontario people that go to get thier M licence are required to take a course before they write their tests and they explain the basics of how to properly maintain and ride your motorcycle....is this a bad idea to do with cars?

Is that what your saying Loudsubz? That everyone should just jump into a vehicle and start driving it around without knowing anything about it? That's like putting an 8 year old in the driver's seat. Makes me kinda nervous, how bout you?
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Old 07-25-2004, 01:20 PM
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I know there are alot of people who aren't mechanically inclined out there, and i feel bad for them. I know guys my own age who can't change there own oil. I'm not posting this to run these people down, heck, they prolly know, or can do things i don't/can't. But my truck has never been to a garage execept for new tires and wheel alignments. I am just to worried about getting my hard earned money stolen from me by some garage for stuff i don't need. Who wants to go in for a loose batt. cable and pay over $400 for stuff they don't need. $400 could buy you a nice amp, or even a nice weekend road trip. It's just a shame, I'm even trying to teach my girlfriend stuff about her car. So even if her car dies on her, she will know what to check/do to get on the road again. (aside from a blown head gasket or something) The best thing for motorists is a Chilton or Haynes manual from Wal-Mart. They are extemely helpful in many ways.
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:57 PM
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I took a car in to CT for a rear brake job, shoes drums hard ware, didn't want to sit in the spring melt mud, and was told it needed $800.00 for repairs. OK do the work I said. The family road trip was due so make it safe I said. Paid for work. Went on trip. Less than 1000 km later heard bang from back corner of car on Hwy 400 in Toronto. Stopped. Checked under car. Nothing seen. Left TO next morning and drove for 200 km, second bang, car wobbles all over my lane, brake peddle goes all the way to floor, car stops, and I look under car, rear axle radius arm [front wheel drive car ] completely detached from car body, HUGE rust hole on either side of mounts. Brand new brake line torn loose when axle rolled and dropped car body on wheel. Got $50.00 for scrap car and cost $130.00 to rent car to get home plus hotel over nite . And because I didn't bring car back to the service center I was denied all claims, even though I had signed letter for Certified mechanic that the damage should have been apparent to whomever did the brake work! The Man's store, I think NOT.
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Old 07-28-2004, 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by DWVW:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Brandon:


Is that what your saying Loudsubz? That everyone should just jump into a vehicle and start driving it around without knowing anything about it? That's like putting an 8 year old in the driver's seat. Makes me kinda nervous, how bout you?
Uh it's called a drivers license test, 8 year olds aren't allowed to take it. I would rather a pilot know how to fly the plane than fix it. One has nothing to do with the other, same with cars. </font>[/QUOTE]That's myt point.....one SHOULD have something to do with the other....all of a sudden your flying along and something breaks. Wouldn't it be a good thing to know what has broken and how to remedy it? Or do you just like flying around with pilots that don't know what to do about a mid-air problem?
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Old 07-31-2004, 08:00 PM
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Riiight brandon, you want the guy flying the plane to feel a little shudder, and know that the engine's malfuntioning, and then leave the ****pit and fix it, while the plane goes into the ground. Or do you want him flying after he just spent 15 hours straight rebuilding part of the engine, just before a cross country flight?
Pilots are pilots, Mechanics are mechanics. So it is for aircraft, so it shall be.

Cars are completely different.

I agree that there is much on a car that can be fixed by a proficient person, but many people don't have the time, tools or knowledge. and even if every person in ontario took some "auto repair for dummies" course, do you expect them to go out and spend the 4-5 grand on mechanics' hand tools so they can do the basics?

I've done my own car repairs for quite a while now, simply because I can't afford to have a mechanic do it. but I've had to learn, do some research, and I have access about 80% of the tools that I needed, the rest I bought or borrowed.

On the other "we can't let you out unless we fix this" issue; this CAN be valid, as the last qualified person to work on a vehicle is libel for anything that happens to that vehicle, through either poor workmanship, or through negligence. The same is true for all trades actually. If I, as an electrician, work on a recepticle in a person's house, and a circuit in another part of the house shorts, sparks, and the house burns down, I am libel, because I was the last qualified person to work on the electrical system. Mechanics in this situation are trying to cover their proverbial azz, and many abuse this to coerce you into paying for things that aren't completely necessary
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