ChizzerZ24

It's not the fact of " oh 1 car did it ", it's the fact of Gm stating "yes there is problem with 2003 cars with the wider tires etc etc etc " it just make the issue consumer known, thus possibly holding back on 2003/2004 cavs/sunfires until they do something about it, even if they went and put in bumper stops to keep the wheel from rubbing I have no problem with them doing that, it's the fact they wouldn't do anything.

ChizzerZ24

As for SoleRed, "Just buy new tires" that would accomplish what? lol... brand new wear lol

Blinddemonz

And more money of urs spent. this is the last year for the cavalier's tho so holding them back wont do much.

Hardwrkr

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Well other than saying the same thing three times ...

Tire height (in mm) = 2*(width*aspect) + 25.4*diameter
H1 = 2*(205*0.5) + 25.4*16
H1 = 611.4 mm
H2 = 2*225*0.45 + 25.4*16
H2 = 608.9 mm

H1 is taller than H2 by 2.5 mm </font>[/QUOTE]My point is that many people use different sizes of tires on these cars with no problems that I have heard of. It seems odd that there is a known problem to GM with the factory tire rubbing.
Since you felt the need to point out that the aftermarket tire is indeed a whole 2.5mm taller
Jmac, you are correct.
Here is a hero cookie for you. Good job. [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]

ChizzerZ24, have you been able to determine what the tire is rubbing on?

Thrill_House

No offense but this is one of the reasons I got away from gm and bought a civic, and ive been very happy ever since.

[ September 02, 2004, 09:01 PM: Message edited by: Thrill_House ]

Jmac

Well other than saying the same thing three times ...

Tire height (in mm) = 2*(width*aspect) + 25.4*diameter
H1 = 2*(205*0.5) + 25.4*16
H1 = 611.4 mm
H2 = 2*225*0.45 + 25.4*16
H2 = 608.9 mm

H1 is taller than H2 by 2.5 mm </font>[/QUOTE]My point is that many people use different sizes of tires on these cars with no problems that I have heard of. It seems odd that there is a known problem to GM with the factory tire rubbing.
Since you felt the need to point out that the aftermarket tire is indeed a whole 2.5mm taller
Jmac, you are correct.
Here is a hero cookie for you. Good job. [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]

ChizzerZ24, have you been able to determine what the tire is rubbing on? </font>[/QUOTE]H1 = Stock, H2 = Replacement ... The stock tires were 2.5 mm taller

ChizzerZ24

My point is that many people use different sizes of tires on these cars with no problems that I have heard of. It seems odd that there is a known problem to GM with the factory tire rubbing.
Since you felt the need to point out that the aftermarket tire is indeed a whole 2.5mm taller
Jmac, you are correct.
Here is a hero cookie for you. Good job. [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]

ChizzerZ24, have you been able to determine what the tire is rubbing on? [/QUOTE

Yeah the inner wheel well, essentially if you look at the top of the engine and where the engine mount is think of roughly in that area in the wheel well/fender and towards the front of the car by few inches.

ChizzerZ24

It's rubbing on the inside of the body, so not the fender but the main body. It doesn't really get worse under compression although I haven't really payed to much attention to that. If you crank the wheel all the way to the left you fit your index and middle fingers in between the tire and body, if you turn it all the way right your lucky to squeeze your index finger beween the tire and body, I gues if you could consider it a good thing it's nice and polished where it rubs [img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img] . If Gm does nothing I just plan on making double payments there year then sell it next year the way I see it Gm doesn't think it's much of an issue to fix or to sell then when I sell, I don't see it as much of an issue to tell the dealership if I trade it in.