CD/DVD copyright laws
02-04-2005, 02:22 PM
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Ok, so it is not illegal to backup your cd's or dvds.
You purchased the product and therefore you have the right to do what you want with the product (backup, transfer to computer, etc)
What is illegal is cracking the CSS encyrption scheme on DVDs. Therefore it is illegal (in the us at least) to backup your own DVD.
Do you think this is fair?
How about copyright protecion on CD's that try and stop you from ripping your cd into mp3 format?
I own the cd why can't I convert it to a format that my hand-held mp3 player will handle?
Personally I believe that once you have purchased the media you should have full rights to do what you wish with it. Except re-sell the material or display it for profit obviously. If you make any profits form the media then and only then should that be considered copyright infringment.
[ February 04, 2005, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: JRace ]
You purchased the product and therefore you have the right to do what you want with the product (backup, transfer to computer, etc)
What is illegal is cracking the CSS encyrption scheme on DVDs. Therefore it is illegal (in the us at least) to backup your own DVD.
Do you think this is fair?
How about copyright protecion on CD's that try and stop you from ripping your cd into mp3 format?
I own the cd why can't I convert it to a format that my hand-held mp3 player will handle?
Personally I believe that once you have purchased the media you should have full rights to do what you wish with it. Except re-sell the material or display it for profit obviously. If you make any profits form the media then and only then should that be considered copyright infringment.
[ February 04, 2005, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: JRace ]
02-04-2005, 02:31 PM
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I don't think its fair no as long as your not doing something illegal in its own. If your cracking encryptions for illegal purposes then its fair, but if your simply trying to copy a dvd/cd for your own sake and no one elses then I don't feel it is fair.
The CD-MP3 is more so for the fact that more people these days ARE only copying to make mp3's to distribute to people. BUT there still are people out there on the legal side of it. A lot of us want to take a CD rip to MP3 so we can fit like 4 CD's on 1 CD to listen to in our car, cd, dvd players. What's wrong about that [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
I agree with you JRace once you purchase it you should have the right to do what you wish with it as long as you aren't making a profit from it, or preventing the company from making the profit by giving copies to people.
[ February 04, 2005, 03:32 PM: Message edited by: Blind d(-_-)b ]
The CD-MP3 is more so for the fact that more people these days ARE only copying to make mp3's to distribute to people. BUT there still are people out there on the legal side of it. A lot of us want to take a CD rip to MP3 so we can fit like 4 CD's on 1 CD to listen to in our car, cd, dvd players. What's wrong about that [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
I agree with you JRace once you purchase it you should have the right to do what you wish with it as long as you aren't making a profit from it, or preventing the company from making the profit by giving copies to people.
[ February 04, 2005, 03:32 PM: Message edited by: Blind d(-_-)b ]
02-04-2005, 03:38 PM
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Anyone else hear news about a judge in the supreme court USA wanting to turn over these precedents set where people are getting charged/sued for downloading files...
I dont even know what the laws are in canada at the momement... but as a I recall one supreme court judge made a decision at one time equating file sharing with photocopying a library book for personal use... which is legal despite what some people believe
Anyway, apparently whatever judge in the states is now considering this and the balance between curbing illegal activity and infringing on personal freedom....
My take, in general... You can charge someone for information, BUT once someone else has it, it no longer belongs to you alone....
RETAINING OR DUPLICATING INFORMATION NO MATTER WHAT IT IS OR HOW YOU GOT IT IS NOT ILLEGAL UNLESS YOU ARE SELLING IT...
Edit: if it means cracking the code or bypassing security features to duplicate information... it should still be legal to do unless you are selling it...
[ February 04, 2005, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Haunz ]
I dont even know what the laws are in canada at the momement... but as a I recall one supreme court judge made a decision at one time equating file sharing with photocopying a library book for personal use... which is legal despite what some people believe
Anyway, apparently whatever judge in the states is now considering this and the balance between curbing illegal activity and infringing on personal freedom....
My take, in general... You can charge someone for information, BUT once someone else has it, it no longer belongs to you alone....
RETAINING OR DUPLICATING INFORMATION NO MATTER WHAT IT IS OR HOW YOU GOT IT IS NOT ILLEGAL UNLESS YOU ARE SELLING IT...
Edit: if it means cracking the code or bypassing security features to duplicate information... it should still be legal to do unless you are selling it...
[ February 04, 2005, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Haunz ]
02-04-2005, 04:59 PM
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I really don't care if its illegal or not. I do it anyways. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Plus this kinda stuff isn't huge in canada. I mean how many ppl have got sued in canada for doing this kind of stuff? Itr mostly happens in the US or Europe and usually are on university lans
Plus this kinda stuff isn't huge in canada. I mean how many ppl have got sued in canada for doing this kind of stuff? Itr mostly happens in the US or Europe and usually are on university lans
02-04-2005, 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Haunz:
but as a I recall one supreme court judge made a decision at one time equating file sharing with photocopying a library book for personal use... which is legal despite what some people believe
but as a I recall one supreme court judge made a decision at one time equating file sharing with photocopying a library book for personal use... which is legal despite what some people believe
02-04-2005, 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Haunz:
^ [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img]
Your local librarian or mom or whatever dosent know ####....
^ [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img]
Your local librarian or mom or whatever dosent know ####....
You show me where it says you can leagally photcopy an entire book.
02-05-2005, 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Haunz:
RETAINING OR DUPLICATING INFORMATION NO MATTER WHAT IT IS OR HOW YOU GOT IT IS NOT ILLEGAL UNLESS YOU ARE SELLING IT...
Edit: if it means cracking the code or bypassing security features to duplicate information... it should still be legal to do unless you are selling it...
RETAINING OR DUPLICATING INFORMATION NO MATTER WHAT IT IS OR HOW YOU GOT IT IS NOT ILLEGAL UNLESS YOU ARE SELLING IT...
Edit: if it means cracking the code or bypassing security features to duplicate information... it should still be legal to do unless you are selling it...
02-05-2005, 11:35 AM
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Well, since I don't download movies to burn them I am safe. If I want a movie that bad I will rent it and copy. I can stand paying 3 bucks fora DVD to burn it.
And yes it really can't be considered illegal unless you are selling it. It's like Microsoft trying to say it's illegal to mod your XBox. It's your property and you can do whatever you like with it... if it was illegal to mod an XBox than it'd be illegal to mod your computer and add parts and remove parts etc...
As long as you aren't making a profit off of it then burn on!
And yes it really can't be considered illegal unless you are selling it. It's like Microsoft trying to say it's illegal to mod your XBox. It's your property and you can do whatever you like with it... if it was illegal to mod an XBox than it'd be illegal to mod your computer and add parts and remove parts etc...
As long as you aren't making a profit off of it then burn on!
