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10-16-2006, 09:31 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by StickyFingaz
That is illegal, here in Canada we are allowed to share music, movies and the like across the internet. Downloading music is not against the law in this country, not yet at least. 
Stealing peoples stereos and physical property is.
Stealing peoples stereos and physical property is.the Federal gov made a law saying you cant give out personal info so when you call your ISP they ask you like 1000000 questions. to confirm its you.
This stop the CRIAA to sue the ISP because the fed's on in there and stop that
Other note it isnt illegal to download but IT is to upload. and it isnt legal to share i cant figure that part out tho because that involvles uploading.
of course its illegal to sell even the cost of the CD because it copywrited BS so yah
look it up i know i found it somewhere but i know if its on this site.
http://www.criaa.ca/
10-17-2006, 08:35 AM
#23
I have read the various post and here is what I conclude..
1: It is ok to steal someones creative work and ideas if:
a: they are rich
b: it is crap
This is contradictory since it is the good artists that make money... the ones that create crap stay poor...So you are willing do download good songs by successful artists without paying for them, but may be willing to pay for crappy music by poor artists...Hu?
2: It is NOT okay to steal someone's creative work and ideas if that work ends up in a widget...like a car or audio equipment. Why is there a difference in value between something made with the creativity of your brain vs the skill of your hands?
Note that both 1 and 2 are protected in most parts of the world by patent and copyright laws.
What if you worked for a year on your car audio system. Spent lots of time and effort figuring out the right components to use, placement, eq, sound deadening etc. This is an amazing sounding car...I see your car, talk to you, you tell me all the things you did. Then, with that information I copy your setup, and because I still have money and energy left (since you did most of the work) I make one extra little tweek (the one you also wanted to do but did not have the time or the budget left anymore)
I then win the competition prize...
I did not steel your car, nor any equipment from you, just your hard work. You still win prizes at the competitions I dont attend... You win some fame and fortune, but not as much as you would have if I had not stolen your ideas. Had I not stolen your ideas, you could have gotten more wins, a sponsorship, and thus the encouragement and support to create an even better car next year...
You would be damn mad at me no?
What if on the other hand, I say to you: This is a great setup...I would like to use your ideas and pay you for them and will tell everyone how good you are. You would be happy and perhaps you could become successfull and earn a living as a car audio expert.
How does the above differ from downloading music and not compensating the artist? You are enjoying, and therefore benefiting from their hard work, yet you refuse to reward them for it. Oh and by the way, anyone that plays music in public pays... Radio stations pay, your local dance studio pays (the one where your gf learn all her sexy moves!) So dont use the argument that listening to it on the radio is free anyway.
3: It is ok to break the law because rich people do it and get away with it. That is a sad argument and you know it.
4:some of you cannot have a meaningfull exchange of ideas without calling others suckers or loosers.
5: and after all this talk...I still did not get the answers to my questions!
Love ya all
Zoomer
1: It is ok to steal someones creative work and ideas if:
a: they are rich
b: it is crap
This is contradictory since it is the good artists that make money... the ones that create crap stay poor...So you are willing do download good songs by successful artists without paying for them, but may be willing to pay for crappy music by poor artists...Hu?
2: It is NOT okay to steal someone's creative work and ideas if that work ends up in a widget...like a car or audio equipment. Why is there a difference in value between something made with the creativity of your brain vs the skill of your hands?
Note that both 1 and 2 are protected in most parts of the world by patent and copyright laws.
What if you worked for a year on your car audio system. Spent lots of time and effort figuring out the right components to use, placement, eq, sound deadening etc. This is an amazing sounding car...I see your car, talk to you, you tell me all the things you did. Then, with that information I copy your setup, and because I still have money and energy left (since you did most of the work) I make one extra little tweek (the one you also wanted to do but did not have the time or the budget left anymore)
I then win the competition prize...
I did not steel your car, nor any equipment from you, just your hard work. You still win prizes at the competitions I dont attend... You win some fame and fortune, but not as much as you would have if I had not stolen your ideas. Had I not stolen your ideas, you could have gotten more wins, a sponsorship, and thus the encouragement and support to create an even better car next year...
You would be damn mad at me no?
What if on the other hand, I say to you: This is a great setup...I would like to use your ideas and pay you for them and will tell everyone how good you are. You would be happy and perhaps you could become successfull and earn a living as a car audio expert.
How does the above differ from downloading music and not compensating the artist? You are enjoying, and therefore benefiting from their hard work, yet you refuse to reward them for it. Oh and by the way, anyone that plays music in public pays... Radio stations pay, your local dance studio pays (the one where your gf learn all her sexy moves!) So dont use the argument that listening to it on the radio is free anyway.
3: It is ok to break the law because rich people do it and get away with it. That is a sad argument and you know it.
4:some of you cannot have a meaningfull exchange of ideas without calling others suckers or loosers.
5: and after all this talk...I still did not get the answers to my questions!
Love ya all
Zoomer
Last edited by zoomer; 10-17-2006 at 08:38 AM.
10-17-2006, 01:05 PM
#24
Originally Posted by zoomer
I have read the various post and here is what I conclude..
1: It is ok to steal someones creative work and ideas if:
a: they are rich
b: it is crap
This is contradictory since it is the good artists that make money... the ones that create crap stay poor...So you are willing do download good songs by successful artists without paying for them, but may be willing to pay for crappy music by poor artists...Hu?
1: It is ok to steal someones creative work and ideas if:
a: they are rich
b: it is crap
This is contradictory since it is the good artists that make money... the ones that create crap stay poor...So you are willing do download good songs by successful artists without paying for them, but may be willing to pay for crappy music by poor artists...Hu?
Originally Posted by zoomer
2: It is NOT okay to steal someone's creative work and ideas if that work ends up in a widget...like a car or audio equipment. Why is there a difference in value between something made with the creativity of your brain vs the skill of your hands?
Note that both 1 and 2 are protected in most parts of the world by patent and copyright laws.
What if you worked for a year on your car audio system. Spent lots of time and effort figuring out the right components to use, placement, eq, sound deadening etc. This is an amazing sounding car...I see your car, talk to you, you tell me all the things you did. Then, with that information I copy your setup, and because I still have money and energy left (since you did most of the work) I make one extra little tweek (the one you also wanted to do but did not have the time or the budget left anymore)
I then win the competition prize...
I did not steel your car, nor any equipment from you, just your hard work. You still win prizes at the competitions I dont attend... You win some fame and fortune, but not as much as you would have if I had not stolen your ideas. Had I not stolen your ideas, you could have gotten more wins, a sponsorship, and thus the encouragement and support to create an even better car next year...
You would be damn mad at me no?
What if on the other hand, I say to you: This is a great setup...I would like to use your ideas and pay you for them and will tell everyone how good you are. You would be happy and perhaps you could become successfull and earn a living as a car audio expert.
Note that both 1 and 2 are protected in most parts of the world by patent and copyright laws.
What if you worked for a year on your car audio system. Spent lots of time and effort figuring out the right components to use, placement, eq, sound deadening etc. This is an amazing sounding car...I see your car, talk to you, you tell me all the things you did. Then, with that information I copy your setup, and because I still have money and energy left (since you did most of the work) I make one extra little tweek (the one you also wanted to do but did not have the time or the budget left anymore)
I then win the competition prize...
I did not steel your car, nor any equipment from you, just your hard work. You still win prizes at the competitions I dont attend... You win some fame and fortune, but not as much as you would have if I had not stolen your ideas. Had I not stolen your ideas, you could have gotten more wins, a sponsorship, and thus the encouragement and support to create an even better car next year...
You would be damn mad at me no?
What if on the other hand, I say to you: This is a great setup...I would like to use your ideas and pay you for them and will tell everyone how good you are. You would be happy and perhaps you could become successfull and earn a living as a car audio expert.
I think your analogy here doesn't work, you are essentailly comparing what would happen if one artist copied a song and then modified it then used it for personal gain. Not really applicable IMO. You are right, in most parts of the world making copies of music is illegal. But we don't live in most of the world, we live in Canada where the goverment, which is represenative of the citizens have decided that it is legal here.
Originally Posted by zoomer
How does the above differ from downloading music and not compensating the artist? You are enjoying, and therefore benefiting from their hard work, yet you refuse to reward them for it. Oh and by the way, anyone that plays music in public pays... Radio stations pay, your local dance studio pays (the one where your gf learn all her sexy moves!) So dont use the argument that listening to it on the radio is free anyway.
Originally Posted by zoomer
3: It is ok to break the law because rich people do it and get away with it. That is a sad argument and you know it.
Originally Posted by zoomer
4:some of you cannot have a meaningfull exchange of ideas without calling others suckers or loosers.
5: and after all this talk...I still did not get the answers to my questions!
5: and after all this talk...I still did not get the answers to my questions!
10-17-2006, 01:08 PM
#25
Originally Posted by twistedsickness
that isnt true The CRIAA is soo agaisnt it that the federal had to step in
the Federal gov made a law saying you cant give out personal info so when you call your ISP they ask you like 1000000 questions. to confirm its you.
This stop the CRIAA to sue the ISP because the fed's on in there and stop that
Other note it isnt illegal to download but IT is to upload. and it isnt legal to share i cant figure that part out tho because that involvles uploading.
http://www.criaa.ca/
the Federal gov made a law saying you cant give out personal info so when you call your ISP they ask you like 1000000 questions. to confirm its you.
This stop the CRIAA to sue the ISP because the fed's on in there and stop that
Other note it isnt illegal to download but IT is to upload. and it isnt legal to share i cant figure that part out tho because that involvles uploading.
http://www.criaa.ca/
10-17-2006, 02:04 PM
#26
Thanks StickyFingas for the well thought out reply
Sure beats being called looser and sucker!
but regardless of how bad music is, I do not believe that you should take it for free, just dont take it.
Yes I agree that our civilization is where we are because we continuously improve upon others work, yet we do have patents and copyright laws in place so that the original inventers can get compensated for it. Even if it is completely legal to copy other's work, it is frowned upon.
Not sure about the law in Canada. May look it up. But I have other priorites..
Anyway...still looking to download music...just the convenience of one click download of a quality mp3...I am in my 40s and have 3 kids and dont have time to do the Kazza stuff...willing to spend $2 a song!
Zoomer
(and just so that you all think I am some sort of Saint goody goody...I did download tons of music from Naptser before they where shut down... mainly Disco from the 70s that you cannot buy!)
Sure beats being called looser and sucker!
but regardless of how bad music is, I do not believe that you should take it for free, just dont take it.
Yes I agree that our civilization is where we are because we continuously improve upon others work, yet we do have patents and copyright laws in place so that the original inventers can get compensated for it. Even if it is completely legal to copy other's work, it is frowned upon.
Not sure about the law in Canada. May look it up. But I have other priorites..
Anyway...still looking to download music...just the convenience of one click download of a quality mp3...I am in my 40s and have 3 kids and dont have time to do the Kazza stuff...willing to spend $2 a song!
Zoomer
(and just so that you all think I am some sort of Saint goody goody...I did download tons of music from Naptser before they where shut down... mainly Disco from the 70s that you cannot buy!)
10-17-2006, 02:17 PM
#27
Kazza shouldn't be to hard or time consuming to run. I think you would just download and install the software, maybe set up a purchase account and then search for the files you want, then click and download. I could be wrong but doesn't Napster offer a deal where you pay like a mothly fee or something and you can download songs? Sorry I can't be of more help.
10-17-2006, 08:05 PM
#29
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 164
It makes no differance if I download the music or not. they are NOT losing because of me downloading their music, I wouldnt buy it anyway, I do buy CDs I really like, as MP3 cant compare to a real cd.
If you take property (lets say a car) from someone then well no car for them. they have to get a new one.
but Ill try to go and give him an answer on the question he asked
im sure there are a few good MP3 download sites out there but www.puretracks.com is the only paid music website I have ever used, found it on a bag of chips
If you take property (lets say a car) from someone then well no car for them. they have to get a new one.
but Ill try to go and give him an answer on the question he asked
im sure there are a few good MP3 download sites out there but www.puretracks.com is the only paid music website I have ever used, found it on a bag of chips
10-17-2006, 08:24 PM
#30
Originally Posted by Hardwrkr
In Canada it is legal to download music and illegal to share music. I use winMX (Old version with the patch) and Limewire (as a second option for hard to find song's but winMX is usually better) and keep all sharing options closed.
It is illegal to both download and/or share movie's.
It is illegal to both download and/or share movie's.
i like the chat rooms, kinda cool.thanx dude.
