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Old 09-12-2010, 05:44 PM
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want to increase mids/high range volume

Hi,

I have a basic car stereo setup. 10 inch subwoofers in a ported box, with 200 rms amp. kenwood headunit, 10 ga power wire.

the problem is this, my subwoofers power good with loud good base. However, i can't hear my mids and highs very well unless the volume is completely up on the head unit. This causes distortion.

What options do i have to increase the volume of my mids and highs so i can hear clear volume from the treble.

also, i'm willing to add another seperate amp for the mids and highs if thats necessary.

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Old 09-12-2010, 05:55 PM
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You need to amp the front end so you can get the best out of them, What brand of speakers do you have in the front?

And the power ratings.

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Did you mix speakers?
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:24 AM
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i didn't mix any speakers. here are the specs for the setup, i just found them online its much easier than grabbing all my manuals.

i am using a kenwood head unit. (couldn't find it online, but it looks just like this, and its 50x4 rms i think: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images03.olx.com.ph/ui/1/68/16/12026216_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://quezoncity.olx.com.ph/kenwood-head-unit-iid-12026216&usg=__6ssXSa1tSMxq4ZC40rIek4Q88ew=&h=469& w=625&sz=33&hl=en&start=4&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid =Jcfdcg9ODBj64M:&tbnh=102&tbnw=136&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkenwood%2Bhead%2Bunit%26um%3D1%26hl%3 Den%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1%26prmd%3Ds vi


2 rockford fozgate 10's in a ported box in a hatch.
(http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=rockford+fosgate+10's&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=3888361386403617206&ei=lVaQTMHeAsT48Abwo_XXD Q&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=image&resnum=8 &ved=0CDgQ8gIwBw#)

2 tweeters up front, (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3531048&CAWELAID=327179772)

and two 8 inch speakers in a small box tucked in the hatch.
(something just like this: http://www.amazon.com/Brand-Cadence-Mid-bass-Speaker-Features/dp/B003TN8MQ4)



i'm also using capacitors on the 8 inch speaks so bass doesn't reach them.

So amp the front? meaning, use two amps? just wire a smaller amp for the mids and highs, and then use another amp for the bass subwoofers?

if i'm using two amps then, do i use one big power wire or two?
i'm not sure how to wire two amps, maybe a diagram would help or info about that too.

thanks alot so far!
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:11 PM
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Capacitors don't restrict power on your 8's, they temporarily supply power when the speakers are drawing a lot of it, so they stay at a constant power input, and you don't need a cap for small, low-power speakers. You meant "cross-over" .

Amp the front speakers and the sub with 1 amp each, yes.

You'll be wiring both amps separately, unless you want to go out of your way to splice the power wire before being connected to the battery.

When you get an amp, search for a gain-setting guide.

There are a bazillion wiring diagrams on google.

"Bass subwoofers" lol.
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rbgnwa45
Capacitors don't restrict power on your 8's, they temporarily supply power when the speakers are drawing a lot of it, so they stay at a constant power input, and you don't need a cap for small, low-power speakers. You meant "cross-over" .
Capacitors do the same thing in a non-adjustable very speaker specific way.
When ran inline with a speaker they will block bass. If I'm not mistaken a Resistor will block treble on a tweeter. Again they have to be exact values.


But as already said, amp the speakers, you'll be happy.
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am I understanding correctly that the only speakers in your car are two tweeters in the front and two 8 inch mid-bass drivers in the hatch? thats probably your problem there, get four real speakers and a four channel amp, 30-40 rms per channel and youll be more than happy with the results
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also your head unit wont be be even close to 50x4 rms it will be around 10-15 rms per channel 50 watts MAX which means nothing just a way to make it seem cool
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okay, brandon, okay do you mean 4 channel for both mids and highs,

and then another 2 channel amp for the subwoofers?

...to clear up the confusion heres a link to the type of inline capacitors i'm using http://www.vacuumtube.com/capacito.htm

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Old 09-19-2010, 06:24 PM
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It really depends on how many speakers you're running, there are sooo many options, but typically you have a mono amp or two channel class d amp for your subs and a 2-4 channel class a/b amp for your speakers, most people run coaxial speakers which have a mid-bass driver and tweeter in one speaker, so there's only one connection on it, if you choose to run seprate tweeters and midbass drivers you have two options you can either run them passive using a capacitor/crossover to control the frequencies that the speaker gets or you could run them active off an amp/head unit using the active crossover in the amp/head unit to control the frequencies the speakers get, typically for a beginner setup you are recommended to get regular coaxial speakers and run them off your head unit, I'm on my cell I'll grab my computer and send you a more detailed private message
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