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Old 06-13-2009, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel.s
also, i heard if you run your spreakers with just the deck power, you can damage them from not having enough power... is this true?
Yes and no. Not enough power, even too much power will not blow speakers. The idiot turning the volume **** past the point where the speakers distort will blow speakers. Having said that, IF you set everything up right you will never have a problem as long as you turn the volume down if you hear distortion. You will have to really listen for it. You can keep the fader to the front when no one is in the back. Don't really need rear speakers IMO, unless you do have passengers back there. Now unfortunately Sony is not the greatest quality so distortion will definately be a problem if turned up too much. Will what you have work? Yes. Will it sound okay? Maybe, depends on the install. Will it win an SQ competition? No, not even if you were the only one entered. LOL
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:14 AM
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i know this is goign to be a low qualaity system. i just want it to sound good for what it is.
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:35 AM
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Will it win an SQ competition? No, not even if you were the only one entered. LOL
Now that's not every nice... lol We all know if he was the only one who entered he'd place 1st and get a trophy.
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Old 06-14-2009, 08:43 PM
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i know this is goign to be a low qualaity system. i just want it to sound good for what it is.
The equipment is fine, what will make the real difference in the sound is the install.....

If you have a 2 channel amp now, use it to run your front speakers for now....it will improve the SQ of the speakers closest to your ears a lot compared to running them off the deck. The rears can run off the deck for now, they are further away and if you set up the fronts properly you won't hear much out of them anyways.

Since you have a sub with a single 4ohm coil, I would suggest you get another 2channel amp that will do anywhere from 250-400W bridged into mono......you can use it to run the sub for now and if or when you decide to upgrade later you will be able to use that amp to run something else.

Another option is an amp like this one, you could use the front 2 channels to run the fronts and bridge the rear channels for the sub.....

Before you put the speakers in the front doors, it will be well worth the $$$ to apply sound deadener (Dynamat, B-Quiet, FatMat or similar product) to the front doors......these products will improve the SQ of the doors in several ways and are not that hard to put in.

Get a proper box for that sub, either make it yourself or ask someone to build it for you.....the enclosure will make or break the sub's performance, so spend what you need to in order to get it done right.


I wouldn't worry about another battery for now, but doing The Big 3 is a cheap way to ensure your system is getting as much power as possible from your present alternator and battery.

Installation and setup are more important than the equipment itself when you are starting out......learn how to do it right in the first place and you will appreciate the difference in the sound from the start.......better to start off with good habits.......

Keep asking questions whenever you want to, it's how we all learned about this stuff......
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:50 PM
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k so now i have the speakers going with the 2 channel 300 watt amp (pioneer GM-3300t). no sub yet.
i have a 550 watt bridgeable 2 channel amp that will do 260 rms at 4 ohm. i was planning to run the sub with that. i see this amp has the lpf and hpf filters. im wondering if i can somehow get my speakers to stop trying to put out these low frequencies. my 300 amp only has the low pass filter. is there a way i can filter the lows from the speakers with the 300 watt amp? if i run the 550 for the speakers set on high, and bridge the 300 for the sub, would that sound good?
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:55 PM
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if i run the 550 for the speakers set on high, and bridge the 300 for the sub, would that sound good?
That is exactly what you will have to do. The 300watt amp with only a low pass filter is a mono amp, it's job is to power subs. If you put mids on it they will sound like poo. On the other amp by selecting high pass you can change the cut off frequency from the amp itself. There should be a dial(gain pot) that will allow you to change it. I like to cut mine off around 100 hz
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Old 06-16-2009, 04:42 PM
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where is a good spot to ground? i have 4 6.5's going in, why shouldnt i run the amp on the rear?
the seat belt anchor bolt is a good spot most of the time...just do what was recommended above...sand it bare, and use a good ring terminal. You can amp all the speakers if you like...assuming the 4 sony's are 4ohm, and your amp is 2ohm stable in stereo mode (virtually all are these days)...you just won't be able to fade front to rear using your deck's fader, and as mentioned the rear levels will be about as loud as the front's. Most "audiophiles" frown on rear fill. I like rear sound, though not as loud as the front, but I'm not an "audiophile". I like concert hall levels, and clean, crisp, heavy impact right to max volume...so it really depends on what you like.
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:15 PM
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so will the 300 be pumping the sub hard? as hard as the 550 would? could i filter out some of the lows with the deck settings and then just turn up the gain on the sub amp?
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:10 AM
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so will the 300 be pumping the sub hard? as hard as the 550 would? could i filter out some of the lows with the deck settings and then just turn up the gain on the sub amp?
You could do that but most likely the overall result will be better if you use the mono amp for the subs(the mono amp is way more efficient at making lots of power with a minimal use of current) As for pushing hard is hard to say cause I don't know what is hard to you. Besides the enclosure you choose will have a very significant affect on the out put of the sub. The best advice for overall balance and quality is to get a good box put your sub in it, power it with the 300 watt mono amp power the front speakers with the other amp and run the rears off of deck power. If a system is set up properly I could turn of the rear speakers completely and 98% of people wouldn't even notice. So running off of deck power will be fine or eliminate them altogether and use the money on better equipment!
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:57 AM
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lol. i think im going to try run the sub with the 550 on lpf for now, if its shitty and im feeling ambitious i might try switch them around. the box im using is the one pictured above, i whipped it up last night with some 3/4" mdf.
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