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Old 07-23-2007, 08:43 AM
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ohms?

I have a kenwood 9103D 1800watt peak amp. I am wondering what is the difference between 2 ohms and 4 ohms and how to choose them. As well how do I don't overcook my subs or amp if not correctly chosen with subs of the same ohms. thanks for reading this post
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:50 AM
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First, IGNORE anything that says max or peak. Talk real power.

Second, your amp will have a certain rms power for a certain ohm value.
Example: 915 watts rms @ 2 ohm.

If you use one 2 ohm sub, you'll get 915 watts before clipping.
OR you can use two 4 ohm subs, in paralell for a 2 ohm load.
Guess how much power each sub will get?

Thats the 800th time i've explained that.

Wht don't they teach basic electronics in grade school?

2 + 2 = 4
4 / 2 = 2

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Old 07-23-2007, 09:37 PM
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yah the kenwood amp will pump out this
500 rms x 2 channells
800 rms x 1 channell

"If you use one 2 ohm sub, you'll get 915 watts before clipping.
OR you can use two 4 ohm subs, in paralell for a 2 ohm load.
Guess how much power each sub will get?"
what is clipping? and how do i do them paralell?
super noob at understanding this
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Lenihan
yah the kenwood amp will pump out this
500 rms x 2 channells
800 rms x 1 channell
Wrong! It's a mono amp. You don't have 2 channels. The specs i looked up say:
500 w rms @ 4 ohm
900 w rms @ 2 ohm

Wasn't it ohms you asked about in the first place?
Now you need to decide if you're going to run 1 or 2 subs?
I like 2. Two 4 ohm subs that will take 450 w rms each is what you need.
Then we'll get into single or dual voice coil.
12" CVR's are rated 400 rms. Since they're dual voice coil, you'd want the 2 ohm version. Wire the coils on each in series and run both to the amp in paralell. Throw them in a cheappy bassworks box and you're done.

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Old 07-24-2007, 02:40 PM
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Wow I didn't know their was this much to subs . Whats the difference between a single or dual voice coal and "Wire the coils on each in series and run both to the amp in paralell." Whats wireing in series and parallel. is their a webpage or somethen that can teach me a bit about it thanks for the time you have spent answering these questions.
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Read this. ALL OF IT!
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Old 07-24-2007, 03:50 PM
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while we are on the discussion of ohm maybe someone can clairfy this one for me

JL 500/1v2
Rated Power: 500 W RMS @ 1.5 ohm - 4 ohm (11V-14.5V)

does that mean that it only puts out 500 W RMS from 1.5 ohms - 4 ohm?

unlike the Kenwood amplifiier that put out more Watts at the lower ohm

seems strange to me if my amp works like that and others don't
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Old 07-24-2007, 04:51 PM
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yeah, my clarion is like that:

CEA 2006 Power Ratings: 450W × 1 Into 4 Ohms, 20Hz-20kHz @ < 0.05%THD
CEA 2006 Power Ratings: 800W × 1 Into 1 or 2 Ohms, 20Hz-20kHz @ < 0.1%THD

i don't really understand how/why they do that, but meh, it sounds good
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wiltshire559
while we are on the discussion of ohm maybe someone can clairfy this one for me

JL 500/1v2
Rated Power: 500 W RMS @ 1.5 ohm - 4 ohm (11V-14.5V)

does that mean that it only puts out 500 W RMS from 1.5 ohms - 4 ohm?
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yeah, my clarion is like that:

CEA 2006 Power Ratings: 450W × 1 Into 4 Ohms, 20Hz-20kHz @ < 0.05%THD
CEA 2006 Power Ratings: 800W × 1 Into 1 or 2 Ohms, 20Hz-20kHz @ < 0.1%THD

i don't really understand how/why they do that, but meh, it sounds good
JL did it as a design choise
Clarion did it to keep the amp inexpensive to make more power into lower loads it would have missed its price point
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:59 PM
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How and why do they do that? Do the amps sense the load and drop the voltage output for lower impedences?
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