Kick mounting
04-01-2004, 09:21 PM
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Ok, I'll be a more specific.
I want to build a modular Kick module that can be removed without too much hassle.
I find carpet vibration to be distracting, so minimizing carpet contact is important.
The module will be fairly heavy, so a substantial support is required.
Right now I'm looking at Flight Instrument mounts from the aerospace industry. They employ billet aluminum top and bottom plates with a visco-elastic polymer bonded between them. Some of them imploy a gell type module in the center. Has anyone used devices like these?
Adam
I want to build a modular Kick module that can be removed without too much hassle.
I find carpet vibration to be distracting, so minimizing carpet contact is important.
The module will be fairly heavy, so a substantial support is required.
Right now I'm looking at Flight Instrument mounts from the aerospace industry. They employ billet aluminum top and bottom plates with a visco-elastic polymer bonded between them. Some of them imploy a gell type module in the center. Has anyone used devices like these?
Adam
04-02-2004, 01:16 AM
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Tim, to be honest I'm probably going to build a few kick modules.
I have some ideas for fabrication that are very different from each other. These ideas will require completely new kicks to try each one out.
I am also somewhat of a beginner with some of the material that will be used, so I'm bound to screw some of it up.
There is no doubt in my mind that the kick modules will be the most important piece in my SQ system. There will be quite a bit of trial and error involved in the design and fabrication of these pieces. I'm trying to give myself as much room as possible to experiment; mounting methods are part of this.
Kick pod modules considered so far:
1.)Complete fiberglass module with MDF baffle
2.)Complete fiberglass module with 1/4 steel baffle
3.)Steel/MDF module (Welded box)
4.)Composite molded module using a material similar to Corian counter top.
5.)Molded wire mesh re-inforced cement module.
6.)Tin foil (as used in the movie "Slapshot")
I hope this answers a few asked, and un-asked questions.
Adam
I have some ideas for fabrication that are very different from each other. These ideas will require completely new kicks to try each one out.
I am also somewhat of a beginner with some of the material that will be used, so I'm bound to screw some of it up.
There is no doubt in my mind that the kick modules will be the most important piece in my SQ system. There will be quite a bit of trial and error involved in the design and fabrication of these pieces. I'm trying to give myself as much room as possible to experiment; mounting methods are part of this.
Kick pod modules considered so far:
1.)Complete fiberglass module with MDF baffle
2.)Complete fiberglass module with 1/4 steel baffle
3.)Steel/MDF module (Welded box)
4.)Composite molded module using a material similar to Corian counter top.
5.)Molded wire mesh re-inforced cement module.
6.)Tin foil (as used in the movie "Slapshot")
I hope this answers a few asked, and un-asked questions.
Adam
04-02-2004, 04:34 AM
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How about fastening a nut (or 2) to the steel behind the factory kick, then bolting it in from behind the mid, then putting the mid in? This way, you can remove and replace the kicks as much as you want, without having to worry about stripping holes... (sort of like a T-nut setup)
04-02-2004, 07:30 AM
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Tyler, I've thought of doing that. I have a TIG welder at my disposal,so attaching nuts to the chasis that way is feasable.
What I'm concerned about, is the energy transfer from the kick module to the car chasis. The more rigid I make the kick module, the more energy it displaces through the mounting point. I'm looking at a possible 10+ pound structure mating to a area of about 4" by 4". (I should note here that I'm speaking of energy created by driving the car, not from the driver's operation.) I drive my car pretty hard sometimes, so the forces placed on the mounting point from potholes and such could be pretty large.
I realize that the majority of you probably don't drive your car's that hard, so it isn't a concern. It is a BMW....
Tom, you know what I'm talking about!
Adam
What I'm concerned about, is the energy transfer from the kick module to the car chasis. The more rigid I make the kick module, the more energy it displaces through the mounting point. I'm looking at a possible 10+ pound structure mating to a area of about 4" by 4". (I should note here that I'm speaking of energy created by driving the car, not from the driver's operation.) I drive my car pretty hard sometimes, so the forces placed on the mounting point from potholes and such could be pretty large.
I realize that the majority of you probably don't drive your car's that hard, so it isn't a concern. It is a BMW....
Tom, you know what I'm talking about!
Adam
