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Old 09-30-2011, 12:37 AM
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im told running a sep battery like that will just fry my alternator
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:01 AM
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im told running a sep battery like that will just fry my alternator
the best solution ideally is to run enough alternator power that it will fully support your amps and all other current draw of your car. But this isnt really practical for a lot of people.

On a budget however, you cant really do it all at once. A HO alt is pricey. Ive used stock alts lots in the past and never had problems. Infact the only alts Ive ever burned out were a 280 amp iraggi and a 300 amp excessive amperage.

Running a stereo without your 2nd batt wont allow you to supply the needed current to the amp and may starve it of current and fry it. Or at the very least will overwork your alt. Whereas running your 2nd batt will allow your amp to have enough current and your alt will be overworked to recharge 2 batts. But really, Id rather blow up a $120 alt and replace it with one that has lifetime warranty than risk blowing up your $120 alt and your $several hundred amp
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Old 09-30-2011, 07:23 AM
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Running a stereo without your 2nd batt wont allow you to supply the needed current to the amp and may starve it of current and fry it. Or at the very least will overwork your alt. Whereas running your 2nd batt will allow your amp to have enough current and your alt will be overworked to recharge 2 batts.
This statement is really confusing and you are contradicting yourself. On the one hand you say he will overwork the alt if he doesn't use a 2nd battery, and then you say he will overwork the alt if he uses a 2nd battery.
Do you have any evidence that someone has ever "fried" an amp by starving it of current (whatever that means)?

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Were you running the 2 MTX 12s? Are you upgrading them because they weren't loud enough? If you were running them, what amp?
I am asking because the general mood these days is that you need 2kW of bass to be happy. It's just so unnecessary. You aren't posting this in the SPL forum, so what is your goal? You can make your ears bleed and your windows rattle with a 250W system. I know this for a fact, because that is what I had in my '94 Sunbird. ADS P40 for the Infinity components and a Zapco AG200 for the Orion XTR10
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:03 AM
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There are amps out there that will fry with too low of voltage
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:05 AM
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Fair enough, is that what we are supposed to translate "starving it of current" to mean?
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:22 PM
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Fair enough, is that what we are supposed to translate "starving it of current" to mean?

im looking for (2) 1000 rms subs, and a amp that will power them to their full capacity ( or atleast in the future )

im also wondering what i need to upgrade aswell.
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im looking for (2) 1000 rms subs, and a amp that will power them to their full capacity ( or atleast in the future )
Wasted if you don't have the electrical system to generate the power.
all i want to do is spend 500 or something on some nice decent LOUDDD<!! subs, and run them to their full capicity
Then stop trying to buy 2kW gear, you can get LOUDDD<!! with a fraction of that ...
Here is a reasonable option from Crutchfield.com
12" Kicker CompVR
MTX Thunder Elite 601D
$300 for the amp, $70 for each sub leaves you with $60 to get it running (assuming the box you have works out)

Your 2 statements are mutually exclusive, you can't expect a stock electrical system to handle a 2kW amp, so you either need to spend more money, or buy equipment that will run on your stock electrical system.

I can't shake the feeling that you are convinced that you need 2kW of bass to be happy, good luck with that for <$1000
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:11 PM
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what about

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Alpine SWR-1243D
12" Dual 4 ohm Type-R Series Car Subwoofer
Checkout price:

$159.95

would this make everything rumble and my throat? lmfao
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Destarah
This statement is really confusing and you are contradicting yourself. On the one hand you say he will overwork the alt if he doesn't use a 2nd battery, and then you say he will overwork the alt if he uses a 2nd battery.
Do you have any evidence that someone has ever "fried" an amp by starving it of current (whatever that means)?

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Were you running the 2 MTX 12s? Are you upgrading them because they weren't loud enough? If you were running them, what amp?
I am asking because the general mood these days is that you need 2kW of bass to be happy. It's just so unnecessary. You aren't posting this in the SPL forum, so what is your goal? You can make your ears bleed and your windows rattle with a 250W system. I know this for a fact, because that is what I had in my '94 Sunbird. ADS P40 for the Infinity components and a Zapco AG200 for the Orion XTR10
its not contradictory at all. Your alt will be overworked either way. Thats why i mentioned the proper way to do it is to upgrade your alt first...however on a tight budget this isnt doable for most people.

Starving an amp of current--meaning if the amp tries to pull from an empty battery bank it will fry. Some may be lucky if they protect first.

A 250 watt system has very little chance of getting that loud. Without a wall. 250 watt setups are very rare to break 140 db.

Everyones definitely of loud is different though i suppose
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:59 PM
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if the amp tries to pull from an empty battery bank it will fry.
What? I am not even sure how to respond to that remark ... anyone else want to take a stab at it?

A 250 watt system has very little chance of getting that loud. Without a wall. 250 watt setups are very rare to break 140 db.
140dB ?!? Holy crap, I don't know many people (who aren't deaf) that would be able to tolerate that ... and even the deaf ones would have a hard time breathing. That's not loud, that's SPL competition ... are we in the right forum here?
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