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Old 07-16-2006, 02:56 AM
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Question All the elements of my system seem to have issues can somebody help?

Ok where to start....i will post one problem at a time so i don't lose myself...i have an alpine deck that i originally had a 200watt clarion and two jls hooked up to...worked fine but not enough boom...tossed the clarion....bought a 800watt kenwood and it made a huge difference and i was content....all of a sudden one day my fuses start the whole blowin every two minutes gotta stop at every gas station sorta crap....i asked around what the sloution was and nobody seemed to have any sorta knowledge on itas i was alread using a 30amp fuse the highest in stock for that size of fuse...when i talke to he guy at lordco he told me because the new amp has two 30amp backup fuses i had to get the 60amp heavier duty fuse...so i did...problem solved for all of 1 hour....good on him for knowing that this fuse would never blow like the rest...it did me one better...cause d both of my subs to completly blow...and since then dumb ole me i have hooked up 4 more subs in two different cars wiring it up five different times each time with new wiring kit and yep it blew 4 more subs....it bumps until it over heats i suppose and instead of the fuse blowing it blows my subs....huge problem one of many but the biggest and most expensive one for sure....can anybody give me some advice?and please don't let it sound even remotely close to what that guy that works at lordco told me after this all happened(chuck the amp)....don't people require any level of knowledge and skill before being handed a job anymore?this guy obiously handed me a bigger problem than i had to begin with and still hasn't even given me a legit reason why all of this started to begin with and what it is inside of the amp that is causing this chain of reaction...please!!!!
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Old 07-16-2006, 05:18 AM
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Kristy, first a little education here in the school of hard knocks. Unfortunately a sub does not blow itself. Something must cause it to. This is most often a case of abuse by the user coupled with a poor match of equipment. If you have blown as many subs as you have, then you have a dose of the above sickness real bad. The remedy is to figure out what it is you have and how to properly use it and not abuse it.

The chain reaction here starts with you, you are the person who uses the system without understanding it. Until you do understand it, you are going to keep blowing fuses and blowing subs and blindly spending money that you should not be.

List the vehicle year, make and model. List all the equipment installed currently. Who installed it, what gauge of wire was used etc. Post as much darn info as you can. Then and only then can we give you a accurate picture of exactly what it is that you may be doing to the poor stereo system that is causing it to die a horrible smelly death.
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Old 07-16-2006, 08:41 AM
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Agree^ also which fuse are you replacing. An aftermarket under the hood fuse or a fuse in the fuse panel?
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Old 07-16-2006, 12:44 PM
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Exclamation i did no such thing

i take offense to the fact that you would need to insult my lack of knowledge and accuse me of abusing an already broken system....i am not at fault when it is working fine for a month and then it stops...you assume that i just half assed my own solution and then just kept riding on the hope that maybe it would correct itself....i am not dumb and i take pride in the fact that i don't need some smart *** telling me how to put sound in my car and i have wired all of my systems up since i was 16.....i was i admit stumped by the reoccurence of the problem and i did everything that i could to ensure that it wasn't a crossed wire or anything else that could be easily fixed and that was a very obvious problem but hey when i still couldn't figure it out i asked a pro how to fix it...rewired a new heavier duty fuse and it made the problem worse....so before you jump down my throat for being ill equipped to hook up a system why not try to help cause otherwise you are just another dude giving your opinion on what needs to go where and that leaves me with no answers on why it is happening and gives me no way of knowing how to go about fixing it if something else might go wrong down the road...


what the hell by the way would i be replacing a fuse in the fuse box for?

i wire my amp straight to my battery and i have a backup fuse that is like i mentioned before a 60 amp which is the one that the guy at lordco told me would solve all of my problems....
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Wow, well first of all Rob and I both have been doing this for years. We simply ask questions to try and get the whole picture. We also dont know you from a hole in the wall. So we dont know what experience you have. Also the fuse comment. We have seen people continue to put bigger fuses in the panel in the radio slot to cure a blowing fuse problem. You never mentioned the amp inline fuse. BTW if you are so experienced you should have known that if an amp has 2x30Amp fuses on it you use the total amp draw to determine your inline fuse rating. You came here for help and this is not the best way to start.

And so far you still have not told us what subs you blew. Model number and make. What the amp is and its model number. If you want help we are here to help. And if you take our questions as offense then your problem will never be solved.
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Kristy, no offence intended BUT a speaker does not blow by itself. If the system is set up wrong and matched together wrong, it is 100% operator error that makes a sub blow. You are asking for help, help is free, you just have to realize that you are the start of the problem. I know it sucks to hear something like this and it is a hard pill to swallow, but do it, move on and learn from it. If you continue going the way you are now, regardless of solving any issues with the amps or wiring, YOU are going to continue to blow subwoofers. One sub goes, sure I can see it as a failure, 6 subs blow, you don't think that you had something to do with it?

If you would care to learn WHY you are blowing subs and HOW to prevent this from happening, HOW to properly use a system and IF the system you have is wired and matched together properly, I'd be more than happy to answer as to why. If you think I am still insulting you, well, best of luck in putting your system back together. Ball is in your court.
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Like SmartAss and Rob said post everything you have in your car EVERYTHING....

Its like being blind for the first time and not knowing whats in your at...
Only think i got was 800WKenwood 60A Fuse and a deck need more detaills...echo in here i think..
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ok i can take offense to being told that i am abusing my system can i not?and second of all i didn't say i knew everything there is to know about systems that would be a lie to say the least...i was just trying to make due with the 30 amp as it is the highest that i could find at canadian tire and even there they did not have any other type of heavier duty fuse to buy....i am not doubting that yours and your friends expertise is way above my experience or skills with car systems i just didn't expect to be criticised as if i had intentionally sabotaged a system....i did mention in my first post that i had been advised by the lordco jerk to install the heavier inline fuse so i assumed that i had made it clear that i had one...i guess my fault for not making that more clear.....anyways to stop an argument that i maybe should have just kept my mouth shout about.....

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Red face

sorry guys i just kept riding on this guys advice and i am a litttle bitter...i myself am at fault for doing it over knowing what the outcome might be but it was either that or smashing these items against the pavement....i got bad advice ran with it and was pissed that i wasted money so i refused to let it go...bad advice... and my stubborn bitterness cost me i am sure
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You know what, it happens, this is very similar to how I got involved in this industry in the first place. Some moron liked taking my money and I did not have the knowledge to know that this jerk was giving me the shaft.
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