dogbaker

I believe that I have written enough for all to make up their individual minds...

If everyone stops arguing with me and simply asks for additional clarification or direction to supporting documentation, all would be well and good - but all I seem to get is crap back from my objective efforts...

There is no short cut or silver bullets - a fundemtal base must be put into place, before I can take the reader to higher levels of design and performance - that's all there is to it!

If it is determined that Canadian Car Audio.com isn't a forum for objective, fact based discussion, then I will move on.

I understand that it can take time to average ego's, icon, educations and experiences between all within the thread, but at this juncture, a time when most should have settled down, the acrimony seems to be in good supply...

I know that many desire me to stay, but I won't if I keep getting this level of push back.

I have read several posts that have been made this year and most of them are simply low-level social portals...

No educational sharing’s of high-level significances or that would likely effect any improvements that many are asking for.

So in my true objective fashion – I have put it to a vote!

PS - It should be noted that most, but not all of the push back is coming from the SPL - Types that have been repeatedly to told that this is an SQ thread. If they settledown all would be normal...

Dukk

It is true you have written a lot. Many of the members here can't understand your language or concepts though. Discussing quantum physics with 6 year olds will only result in frustration. Take Mr. Goalie_35. He has been around a long time and knows more than many and genuinely wants to learn to improve, exactly what you claim to want to promote, but the poor guy has taken a lot of pucks to the mask - you need to slow it down for him. lol

Seriously though, without a clearly defined set of goals and objectives, how can we expect people to stay tuned and realize the relevance of the early posts in your discussion, the foundation of your message? Any text book or technical paper will have a table of contents or foreward to direct the reader on what to expect. The reader can then decide on whether it is worth it to them to continue.

Currently we are in a 2man rowboat pointed into an ocean of information. With no clearly defined destination, why row?

dogbaker

It was my intention to travel from point A to Z, traveling through (at least in part) virtually every letter in between; however, in light of past and present events and your direction (and that of a few select others) I will most likely skip a few and compress the education.

As for a clear path or table content, I will think on it and will indeed offer up a general road map.

Thank you for your light hearted reply - I do worry though that ultimately, what I have in mind, will still leave a few behind, but that is to be expected... The best hope is that a select few will make the investment into become professional audio system designers and not just car audio systems – all audio systems, our industry need more of such type.

Hard work, no question, but the rewards can be both personal and financial!

goalie 35

can you shed some lite on my initial sq question about phase and its relationship to transucers and there output? also paul is wrong about me....... i have done not taken tooo many of them thar pucks to de head... matter of fact my mom now lets me eat soup without my helmet on so there paul! lol be glad to see ya on sat..

dogbaker

You actually made me Laugh-out-loud!

I am waiting to see the outcome of the 'Poll' before I continue to answer questions...

But - Paul does have a point - You voted 'Yes' to the poll, but here you are asking me more questions...???

The black things in your bowl are bucks and not Shredded Wheat!

Let's hope that it doesn't come down to one vote!

JohnVroom

well there you go... I have learned something I am not a professional I am a hobbyist (I think you might be somewhat mistaken). BTW I wasn't aware of your resume either as it is simply a check in the yes column to "all of the above" (but you have alluded to professor, hobbyist, car audio professional, lecturer, etc.) I am not challenging you I am simply saying... you are a little bit of everything and that can come from having lived a full life... it can also sound like a load of crap so the anonymity thing works against you.

From your posts I feel you have more of an academic approach rather than a technical approach, and I dont think you are involved as a marketer or distributor (though that could be in your resume as well)... You have chosen your words very well and you keep from being pinned down on a lot of things so you are quite intelligent.

From a critical point I think you have stated a few things as fact that are theoretic in nature but even then you have been good with your use of the queens english. BTW I am not trying to be disrespectful, I was hoping for a little more 'meat and potatoes' as this thread wore on.

goalie 35

i voted yes to stop reciting manuals and get down to teaching how to improve our sq systems.... i have nightmares of a giant puck comming to get me and i have no equipment on... time to retire.. or stop drinking pilsner..

dogbaker

To start, thank you for your shift in tone!

Well, I am working towards the 'Meat & Potatoes' as you put it, but I stand firm in my belief that we must all have a decent, working understand of many of the fundamentals (not all), before we start to talk about ‘how to take thing to the next level’, as we are already at a very high level, in the aftermarket. The efficient and large strides that were once easily made are no longer available. The next level, if you will, - will be found in the minutia.

With my approach, I am trying to balance both worlds (perhaps poorly), by taking a common progression, high-end SQ system design and shed some solid light on more, rather than just a few of the considerations that are required, within the process. Is the progression flawed, yes, I can see that it is, but with the limited amount of time that I have available to contribute to this forum, it’s the best I can do; however, it’s at least a well evidence effort to balance the two, and I don’t think that I should be ridiculed for my efforts, in this regard. Like others, I am also looking to this forum as a social outlet, not just a classroom. Perhaps if I wasn’t so frequently and severely attacked, I could keep the path/progression a little straighter or at least offer additional commentary to help those along that I have failed to keep on the path, if you will.

As for the clandestine holes that you have discovered – they are just that intentional, as I am trying to motivate readers to dig-in and do some research for themselves, if not for any other reason then it’s logistically impossible for me to port a neither complete, nor clear education within such a forum. I can only shed some light, define a path, create some extra interest and help to develop a solid intuition, for one to guide one’s self with.

And it should be noted that I frequently offer any and all citations for the science that I refer to within my posts and furthermore, that I repeatedly offer to added greater detail upon request. No one has acknowledged this fact, nor taken advantage of it. Yet they throw stones, stating that I am making it all up or that I haven’t offered one bit of proof, when I have in fact, offered up much, - so it begs that question, who’s really talking , if I am the only one using citations!

dogbaker

Perhaps you should negate your vote by also voting 'No'... Just a though if you want me to stick around to answer your questions.

In all this I am listening, as I mentioned earlier today, I will most likely work harder at relating my posts in a more globaly understood language.

Don't give up the pilsner... (you're a good sport)

SID0001

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Am I wasting my VALUABLE time?


No, your majesty!..please grace us more with your epic knowledge.

I voted no btw...........I'm sure you taking time out of your hectic(valuable) day to inform the meager peasents is making someone happy....me?....meh......If I become interested in sq to the point I need to know the physics of it all, I'll be sure to consult this thread...I just better not forget my dictionary.(or have another window open for trying to figure out what the hell your trying to explain)