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02-18-2004, 03:48 PM

BumpinTalon

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http://www.edesignaudio.com/miva/mer...egory_Code=BSD

They haven't added them all yet. There is supposed to be B1, B2 and B3 and only a few of them are on there.
B1 = slightly better then K
B2 = slightly better then O
B3 = about 1dB quiter then A, 23.7mm excursion, 1k RMS

But the pricing! I'll have to see what Genuine Canadian Audio will pick these up for, or I might just hold out for the new versions of the A which are supposed to be competitive with W7s.

02-18-2004, 04:09 PM

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B212 looks like a Stryke AV12

02-19-2004, 08:30 AM

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They were having problems getting the flat pistons for their woofers, so had to resort to something more conventional.. Bummer.

Nice looking woofers, I am sure Ben will have ensured that they sound at least as good as the older models.

I promised him I'd run an A/B comparison for him once the replacement for the 12A was done.

02-19-2004, 10:12 AM

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There's some weird stuff going on at eD. These B-series subs are apparently a one-shot deal; once they're only making one batch and that's it. In the meantime, the flat-coned A-series are being discontinued, to be replaced temporarily by the "anniversary edition" A series, which will have more traditional cones. Then, in a few months those too will be discontinued, to be replaced by an entirely new sub that is apparently a step up from the A series. Pretty damn confusing, if you ask me...

02-19-2004, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by strappingyounglad:
There's some weird stuff going on at eD. These B-series subs are apparently a one-shot deal; once they're only making one batch and that's it. In the meantime, the flat-coned A-series are being discontinued, to be replaced temporarily by the "anniversary edition" A series, which will have more traditional cones. Then, in a few months those too will be discontinued, to be replaced by an entirely new sub that is apparently a step up from the A series. Pretty damn confusing, if you ask me...

Try explaning it 40 times a day on 4 different forums to people who don't care what you have to say

if you have questions i'd beg you to give me a ring at 319-665-6350. my hands are starting to get a little tired [img]smile.gif[/img]

We got 2 choice here. Redo everything and sit on our butts and do nothing for a few months. Or... release some fun speakers we get to play with in the shop in the meantime. Gives us something to do, gives our customers a good, affordable product that's in stock.

I'll take the doing something over sittin with my thumb in my butt.

As for the stryke. Something similar was posted on SD the other day and unfortunatly I wasn't able to answer as I wasn't too familiar but another individual posted this. Kurt is quite a bit more versed in that driver than I am.

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Looks can be deceiving. Also, the AV12 has dual spiders with a spacer now, which differentiates it rather significantly from the B2.

You'll notice that if you compare the AV12 MK II, you see some pretty noticeable differences:

ED B2-12D2
Fs 21Hz
Qes 0.42
Qms 4.56
Qts 0.38
Vas 71L

Stryke AV 12 MK II

Fs 25Hz
Qes 0.49
Qms 6.46
Qts 0.45
Vas 45L

After asking around it appears the stryke has a little more xmax? Not sure exactly what coil they are using to get as much as I was told but that's niether here nor there.

Ben

[ February 19, 2004, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: Ben_Milne ]